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Revenge is Bad?

Sun Jun 8, 2008, 1:19 PM
I am a vindictive person. You wrong me, I will never forgive you and try to think of a way to screw you over (though nothing illegal because I've yet to find someone horrendous enough to need to break the law for).

So I guess the worst position you can be in if you know me is that you're doing something illegal and then you piss me off...

Hell, I'll even try hexing people to make myself feel better... I don't believe in afterlife, so I want comeuppance now! D:

I am a firm believer that an eye for an eye is a damn good philosophy. And no, we won't all be blind (I think Gandhi said something like that? "If we all took an eye for an eye, we'd all be blind"). -_-' Quite simply, there is risk in wronging others.

I also believe in the death penalty. Though jeez, we need to kill people faster. Sometimes inmates on death row live longer than the ones that get life in prison...



But it seems a common theme in stories where a character spends a while plotting revenge of some sort and then when they finally get revenge, it doesn't make them happy.

What's up with that?


So... that said...

What do you think about revenge??

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I think revenge is pointless, no matter what you do. But, selfish revenge is the bad kind of revenge, especially if the punishment is not well-deserved...

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revenge is best left to God

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WARNING, SPOILERS FOR GTA4

Grand Theft Auto 4 dealt with this in an extremely thought-provoking way. When it came to decide about Darko, I honestly couldn't decide what was better. I spent literally a minute with my gun pointed at him with both Roman and Darko trying to convince me to do something. In the end, I decided that revenge wasn't always an option and left. I literally said, "Come on Roman, let's get out of here." That one moment was the most difficult moral choice I've ever been faced with. On the drive home, I was amazed at how philosophical Niko got. He said that in the end, only the dead recieve closure. It ties in to an earlier statement to Roman at the start of the game. "Every day we pick up new baggage. Baggage that we must carry for the rest of our lives. We cannot simply drop it and move on."

In the end, Niko always takes revenge on Jimmy/Dimitri. But in the Deal storyline, it isn't really personal revenge. In Revenge, he gave in to his base desire for justice, and as a result Kate was killed literally minutes after his heartfelt conversation with her. Thus he took revenge on Jimmy. In Deal, he decides that revenge won't solve anything and comes away with money. But Dimitri refuses to leave him and sends an assasin to Roman's wedding. After Roman's death, Niko knows that Dimitri has to be dealt with, but not just for revenge. Left alive, Dimitri would continue to ruin lives and betray others.

In conclusion, the only time revenge should be taken is if the person will otherwise continue to wrong other people. In any other case, simply let karma screw that person over. Alphonse in Fullemtal Alchemist (yay for obscure anime) says, "All this eye-for-an-eye stuff, it doesn't solve anything. All it achieves is more bloodshed." Never truer words.

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Revenge?

I think we should all just not give a shit. Like me.

I can only stay angry for like two seconds. And then I'm like "LOOK!! A SQUIRREL!!! 8D".

xP Yeah. I'm retarded like that.

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Personalities are a turn-on. ~<33
I'm too much of a pessimist to get over things quickly... Once someone pisses me off past a certain point, I can never look at them the same way... they end up being labeled as "that person who did *insert offense here*" they're no longer "that acquaintance" or "that classmate" or "that friend" they're someone who hurt me.

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The player I was watching the walkthrough of decided to shoot Darko. I think I would have kept Darko alive because, I think I mentioned once "a real sadist keeps a suicidal man alive" (a pussy sadist would go around killing people who already want to die... that's like doing a kind of twisted favor in my mind). So yes, mental anguish for the rest of Darko's life sounded like a more vengeful idea to me than putting him out of his misery... >_> But I think that might be a twisted interpretation of how to do things... For me, revenge isn't necessarily killing someone, but putting them in more anguish.

Seeing Niko's reaction after killing Darko... I dunno. I felt like Niko was expecting for Darko to be like "YEAH! I BETRAYED EVERYONE! I'D TOTALLY DO IT AGAIN!" rather than the horrible wreck that Darko actually is.


FMA isn't obscure anime... O_o

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The best way to deal with a world gone mad is to think up something more absurd.
One large reason that I let Darko live was the cutscene where we meet him. I drove in ready to kill him painfully. All I saw was a borderline-insane junkie. The complete 180 of emotions that Niko did in the cutscene mirrored my own. "A thousand dollars?" He sounds so utterly horrified. Another reason was how Roman said so solemly, "Come on. He knows what he did. He's suffered enough." I think everyone expected Darko to be so much more than he was.

On an unrelated note, I really had no idea if FMA was obscure, I just assume that things I like are obscure :|

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Do not screw with me. I happen to have Old Snake on my speed-dial.
Awwz.

Everyone hurts me at somepoint so I've learned to absorb all the pain like sponge. Well,I guess more or less consume it like the blob. Since it disappears and doesn't stick around. >_>;

Eh. Staying mad ruins my vibe. For now my goal is to be alone and happy. I can't let everyone bring me down cause then I'd be depressed 24/7. And that would suck...

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Personalities are a turn-on. ~<33
"But it seems a common theme in stories where a character spends a while plotting revenge of some sort and then when they finally get revenge, it doesn't make them happy."

Sounds like Hamlet. ^_^'

I'm confused about revenge. It's an endless cycle...but endless cycles are fun!

I've tried holding grudges against people. It works for some. Other, I'm too nice to be mad at. I think the worse I've ever done was just lie to people. X_X

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